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Hello Forum,
i use archlinux32 with
VirtualBox 6.1.16 (released October 16 2020)
and
Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.1.16.vbox-extpack
My last working archlinux32.vdi is from May 2020.
pacman -Syu
Download: 820,00 MiB
https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1325526
If i say yes and will reboot the system i only get "_", an nothing more.
How can i solved the problem?
Thank you.
arch322yes
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-08 10:01:33)
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What prompt are you saying yes to, in order to reboot? There are no prompts like this in the software I know of, and your log appears to be truncated before it asks you if you want to preform the update.
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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Hello, i can download "pacman -Syu", it will be installed.
If i boot the system i get only a black screen this white "_".
I think it is a xorg server problem.
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-06 17:00:02)
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Okay, if it's not giving you a prompt it sounds like it's hanging before even starting up the X server.
Looking at the system I'm currently running, I have all of the same xorg-* package versions as your pacman -Syu installed, except I'm currently on version back on xorg-xprop. Unless upgrading that breaks it for me (or it's not an xorg.* package actually at failt). Do you know what greeter you're currently using? I can't see it in the list of packages updated, but I'm not familiar with the lxqt package names so it might actually be part of lxqt-session, I'm not sure. I assume you are using a greeter, you're not logging in via text first and then issuing startx like I do.
I assume you're also not running this on bare metal, but instead running it as a virtualbox client thingy, which is another potential home for problems that I can't easily reproduce here.
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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Hallo levi,
my login manager:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P4IV5BYPiPs/maxresdefault.jpg
sudo systemctl status sddm.service
● sddm.service - Simple Desktop Display Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Active: active (running) since Sun 2020-12-06 18:10:36 CET; 24min agoLast edited by arch322yes (2020-12-06 18:36:18)
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I don't know virtualbox at all outside of occasional security reports. I've never run it or seen it running first hand on anything. Do you know if it's able to display the text buffers, or is this flashing cursor normal behaviour if it's not displaying graphics?
I guess that greeter might be an lxqt thing, it looks a little qt-ish to me.
I suppose you can't boot this virualbox client image locally to check it out natively in any way, can you?
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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Hello, i will first try to intall the new Virtualbox Guest-Addtions.
My Kernel:
5.6.4-arch1-1.0
sudo sh ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing VirtualBox 6.1.16 Guest Additions for Linux........
VirtualBox Guest Additions installer
Removing installed version 6.1.16 of VirtualBox Guest Additions...
Copying additional installer modules ...
Installing additional modules ...
VirtualBox Guest Additions: Starting.
VirtualBox Guest Additions: Building the VirtualBox Guest Additions kernel
modules. This may take a while.
VirtualBox Guest Additions: To build modules for other installed kernels, run
VirtualBox Guest Additions: /sbin/rcvboxadd quicksetup <version>
VirtualBox Guest Additions: or
VirtualBox Guest Additions: /sbin/rcvboxadd quicksetup all
VirtualBox Guest Additions: Kernel headers not found for target kernel
5.6.4-arch1-1.0. Please install them and execute
/sbin/rcvboxadd setup
VirtualBox Guest Additions: Running kernel modules will not be replaced until
the system is restartedHow can i get the Kernel headers for 5.6.4-arch1-1.0?
Thank you
arch322yes
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-07 09:26:40)
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My Solution:
sudo pacman -S mkinitcpio sudo pacman -S linuxto get the newest Kernel
reboot the system
uname -r
5.9.10-arch1-1.0
sudo pacman -SyuThan the system can boot without problems
nice :-)
Thank you
arch322yes
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-07 12:47:43)
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Oh damn. I guess even seeing evidence of the user running pacman -Syu as su shouldn't make me think they're actually at all up to date on their system.
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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My last working archlinux32.vdi is from May 2020.
See the first post in this thread.
achlinux 64-bit: VirtualBox/Install Arch Linux as a guest
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Vi … as_a_guest
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-08 07:40:59)
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Yeah, but the next line you state to updated the system. Oh well, no need to sweat it, at least you've fixed the problem you were having.
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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Hello, now with the new kernel, the same problem.
https://bbs.archlinux32.org/viewtopic.php?id=3008
uname -r
5.9.10-arch1-1.0
If i say yes and will reboot the system i only get an blinking white "_", an nothing more.
I can use Grub before that.
Which package should i ignore?
Download: 678,81 MiB
https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1325540
with xorg-server-1.20.9-2.0
If i "sudo pacmnan -Syu --ignore sddm" i get the same problem.
It is a kernel problem?
It is a virtualbox guest-additions problem?
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-09 09:42:51)
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9. Dez. 2020
Update, Downoad now 773,89 MiB
https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1325542
Now xorg-server-1.20.10-1.0
reboot, the same white blank.
How can i analyze my problem
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-09 09:49:12)
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11. Dez. 2020
uname -r
5.9.11-arch2-1.0
lsmod
Module Size Used by
fuse 106496 3
cfg80211 688128 0
rfkill 24576 2 cfg80211
8021q 28672 0
garp 16384 1 8021q
mrp 20480 1 8021q
stp 16384 1 garp
llc 16384 2 garp,stp
ext4 626688 1
snd_intel8x0 40960 1
intel_rapl_msr 20480 0
intel_rapl_common 24576 1 intel_rapl_msr
crc32_pclmul 16384 0
snd_ac97_codec 126976 1 snd_intel8x0
aesni_intel 16384 0
crc16 16384 1 ext4
mbcache 16384 1 ext4
crypto_simd 16384 1 aesni_intel
jbd2 110592 1 ext4
cryptd 24576 1 crypto_simd
ac97_bus 16384 1 snd_ac97_codec
rapl 20480 0
snd_pcm 114688 2 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0
snd_timer 36864 1 snd_pcm
snd 77824 6 snd_ac97_codec,snd_timer,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
e1000 131072 0
psmouse 151552 0
input_leds 16384 0
pcspkr 16384 0
i2c_piix4 28672 0
soundcore 16384 1 snd
intel_agp 16384 0
ac 16384 0
joydev 24576 0
evdev 20480 10
intel_gtt 20480 1 intel_agp
mousedev 20480 0
mac_hid 16384 0
vboxvideo 24576 1
drm_vram_helper 24576 1 vboxvideo
drm_ttm_helper 16384 1 drm_vram_helper
ttm 90112 2 drm_vram_helper,drm_ttm_helper
drm_kms_helper 200704 4 drm_vram_helper,vboxvideo
cec 57344 1 drm_kms_helper
rc_core 53248 1 cec
syscopyarea 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
fb_sys_fops 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
drm 466944 7 drm_vram_helper,drm_ttm_helper,vboxvideo,ttm,drm_kms_helper
vboxsf 28672 0
vboxguest 40960 1 vboxsf
agpgart 40960 4 intel_agp,intel_gtt,ttm,drm
ip_tables 24576 0
x_tables 36864 1 ip_tables
hid_generic 16384 0
usbhid 53248 0
hid 118784 2 hid_generic,usbhid
btrfs 1241088 1
blake2b_generic 40960 0
libcrc32c 16384 1 btrfs
crc32c_generic 16384 0
xor 28672 1 btrfs
sr_mod 24576 0
cdrom 61440 1 sr_mod
ata_generic 16384 0
pata_acpi 16384 0
serio_raw 20480 0
ohci_pci 20480 0
atkbd 28672 0
libps2 20480 2 atkbd,psmouse
raid6_pq 110592 1 btrfs
ehci_pci 20480 0
ohci_hcd 49152 1 ohci_pci
crc32c_intel 16384 4
ehci_hcd 73728 1 ehci_pci
ata_piix 32768 0
i8042 28672 0
serio 24576 6 serio_raw,atkbd,psmouse,i8042pacman -Syu
https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1325553
If i reboot the system, i only get "_", an nothing more.
This Update doesn't solve the blank problem.
Which package should i try to ignore?
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-11 10:55:45)
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What actually do you see after selecting to boot the OS in grub? It normally starts by saying it's loading the kernel; do you see that? Then it unpacks the initcpio and then I think starts bringing up services.
Last edited by levi (2020-12-11 20:37:45)
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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12. 12. 2020
sudo pacman -Syu --ignore grubhttps://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1325565
grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfghttps://i.imgur.com/tFiejv1.jpg
and than
https://i.imgur.com/kABEwbk.jpg
no nothing more
Hello levi,
did you need more information?
Thank you
arch322yes
Edit OT
My Netbook start without problems.
cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 28
model name : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-12 11:42:51)
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Presumably your netbook isn't what you're actively trying to target here. You've run that to prove that it's purely a virtual box issue. Is there nobody else on the internet reporting problems using virtualbox to boot linux systems? It could be this is only a problem for systems written in x86 like Archlinux32, since I assume all modern chips start up in 32-bit mode still and have to be actively switches to 64-bit, but that's only my guess.
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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Hello levi,
Ubuntu, Debian-32-bit, MX-Linux-32-bit work's im my Virtualbox without problem.
I think it is a archlinux32 problem.
What mean the developer?
Greets
arch322yes
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-12 17:50:35)
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Hmm, that's curious. I know that debian advertises it's 32-bit builds as i386 but in reality allow some newer instruction sets. Presumably your booting an i686 iso here, or does the action of updating try to switch that out for pentium4 binaries?
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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Hello levi,
i can use the archlinux32 Kernel 5.9.11-arch2-1.0.
LXQt works.
But if i use "sudo pacman -Syu" (without ignore), the system will not start.
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I'd suggest checking your /etc/pacman.conf. Not the Architecture line on line 23 of that file in my copy at least, it's set to auto.
If you run 'pacman-conf Architecture' my system reports pentium4. What is the extenstion of the packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg on your system?
Architecture: pentium4, Testing repos: Yes, Hardware: EeePC 901+2GB RAM+OS half on the SD card.
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I can say, that arch32 on virtualbox runs fine for me (for months, if not years), so it's not "an arch32 issue".
@arch322yes: Can you check (before the update), what architecture your installed packages have?
run
find /var/lib/pacman/local -name desc -type f -exec cat {} + | sed -n '/^%ARCH%$/{N;p}' | sort -uto find out, if you have any i686 packages installed, and run
pacman-conf Architectureto find out, for which architecture pacman will install new packages.
If the first contains "i686" and the latter shows "pentium4", then you must follow the transition instructions.
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Hello, my info:
find /var/lib/pacman/local -name desc -type f -exec cat {} + | sed -n '/^%ARCH%$/{N;p}' | sort -u
any
%ARCH%
pentium4pacman-conf Architecture
pentium4How can i solved my problem?
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-13 13:11:54)
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Your architectures looks ok.
Here is the list of packages installed in my vm and on the host - maybe you can try to bisect, which packages break your vm
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https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1325582
Which package should i ignore?
My booting Kernel:
uname -r
5.9.11-arch2-1.0
Edit:
If i use "pacman -Syu" an say yes isn't solved my problem.
Last edited by arch322yes (2020-12-13 13:49:51)
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